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  • Writer's pictureJulie Skye

We’re only down 15% from the all-time high of Feb. 19...the world is more than 15% screwed up.

Updated: Jul 29, 2020

Ha!!! Talk about Straight Talk...that’s Howard Marks, the billionaire founder of Oaktree Capital, commenting in a CNBC interview Monday on what he sees as a huge disconnect between what the coronavirus pandemic is doing to the global economy and what we’re seeing in the stock market.

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“It took seven years to get back to the 2000 highs in 2007. It took 5½ years to get back to the 2007 highs in late 2012,” Marks explained. “So, is it really appropriate that, given all the bad news in the world today, we should get back to the highs in only three months? That seems inappropriately positive.”

Separately, he echoed that bearishness in a recent memo, saying that the chances are high that the Dow, S&P and the Nasdaq Composite Index will all slip below those recent nadirs.

“It’s not easy to buy when the news is terrible, prices are collapsing and it’s impossible to have an idea where the bottom lies,” he wrote. “But doing so should be the investor’s greatest aspiration.” The S&P 500, getting a boost from an unprecedented stimulus has bounced back nicely from its March 23 low, but it’s still down more than 15% from its record as the U.S. economy continues to grapple with historic job losses and plunging retail sales.

“People are traumatized, and not just because of the performance of their stocks,” Marks told CNBC midway through the trading session. “Everybody’s life is hugely changed.”

At last check, the Dow Jones Industrial Average DJIA, -2.44% was down almost 300 points while the S&P 500 index SPX, -1.78% was also in the red. The Nasdaq COMP, -1.03% , however, managed to crack into positive territory.

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